Can we help the Chief Steward out

Chief Stewards report is out tomorrow , so I think we should help him out, with what to write.
Such as the discussion of letting Cordoma run the 300m before the 120m final.His injury.
Fell free to have your say with anything to do about the Loxton meeting.
Ive started the ball rolling so hope everyone can join in and do some add ons for the Chief.
Lets have a bit of fun at no ones expence , just add something doesnt matter how funny

CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
21st Nippy’s Loxton Gift, 26th February 2021.
1. Weather - it was a fine and warm day with light gusty breezes.
2. The track was rated Standard Grass. The circle track was 399m.
3. This carnival was, as always, a special event, well organised and well supported by the
Riverland Community.
5. There were no notable incidents, which is very pleasing.
6. There was however, one concern, being the results of the 300m events. It is generally
expected a few runners run red Z scores, but there were an alarming number of reds.
Note that all 300s at Loxton were category 4 and 5 races, so these races were not
stewarded and therefore the timing issues had no effect on the event's stewarding for
this carnival, however it warranted investigation.
It has been concluded that a combination of factors contributed to this alarming result of
abnormally fast times.
Firstly, the track was remeasured at the end of proceedings and discovered it may have
been up to 3m short.
Furthermore, it is also notable that all circle events this season have been electronically
timed using the line scan equipment. But for this Carnival, with the feature event, the
Gift, being the last event of the day, there was not sufficient time in the program to move
the camera for the circle events. (At the Bay Sheffield we borrow the camera from ASA,
but the League cannot yet afford a second camera). Consequently, all circle events were
hand timed. It is a recognised fact that there is variation in timing between electronic and
hand times.
The combined effect of these factors contributed to the questionable times of the 300m
events.
I have decided to disregard all 300m times from this carnival in the system, for future
handicapping and stewarding calculations
So there you have it , perhaps we can add on to help him

How would, I had to put a restriction on the number of powerades per athlete during the afternoon as athletes were taking them and providing their families with drinks and we were going to run out.

Loxton finish line. Is this an acceptable finish?



What about this one, the girl in green?



When his mind went through how he might celebrate a win, I bet it didnt go like this?



Now Mumbles can add this to his report

Watch the watches mumbles, but surely its not on your watch? You are cracking down right?

Thats pretty good TS , Im sure that will help him.
What does everyone think about the young girls tucking up their singlets as per the photo.
13.4. Incorrect Attire/costume, shoes
Athletes shall wear a clean and complete costume (singlets, vests, shorts, bicycle shorts) and
spiked shoes all as approved by the Chief Steward.
CLEAN AND COMPLETE,, tucking a single into your running bra isnt a complete singlet
Doubt if you would see it at Stawell.
But its picnic races so choose yourselves how you wear your colours , no set rule

Perhaps TS you can show us the finish of the womens 120m , its on saal website social media for everyone to see where a runner 7m out from the line is having a bit of a giggle , but she drops .244 between semi and final in doing so.Perhaps shes laughing at the Vic handicapper.
If you can TS the two frames before the finish would be nice.
Would help the Chief.

You mean this one? Looks like the 3 of them found something funny meters from the finish, as you do?

Wow, is that the time? 4:45 already!

Watch this!

SA Whisperer wrote:Thats pretty good TS , Im sure that will help him.
What does everyone think about the young girls tucking up their singlets as per the photo.
13.4. Incorrect Attire/costume, shoes
Athletes shall wear a clean and complete costume (singlets, vests, shorts, bicycle shorts) and
spiked shoes all as approved by the Chief Steward.
CLEAN AND COMPLETE,, tucking a single into your running bra isnt a complete singlet
Doubt if you would see it at Stawell.
But its picnic races so choose yourselves how you wear your colours , no set rule

Since you mentioned tops, here is a set from Camden. All in the mens events.



here in the white



This one in the blue

Another in the red,

Here's an early celebration at Camden

Had a read of the Chiefs Camden report, none of these issues were raised. If someone did come past Rommi they would have been clothes lined!!

CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
Brighton #2 Carnival, Brighton Oval, 26th January 2022
Throughout this season I have issued many such warnings, and consider that I have been
very patient, lenient, and considerate to date, BUT I’m of the opinion the warnings are not
being heeded. I am now issuing a warning to ALL COACHES and runners, WE HAVE RULES,
and I’m tired of hearing the lame excuse “I didn’t know”, so from now on, no more
warnings. All rule breeches will be penalised with a fine, disqualification, or both.
Regards
Dennis Letton
Chief Steward
Say one thing and not follow up with it , the closest thing you can get to a toothless tiger.
Its all one big party with picnic races and not much discipline.

Z Score wrote:CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
Brighton #2 Carnival, Brighton Oval, 26th January 2022
Throughout this season I have issued many such warnings, and consider that I have been
very patient, lenient, and considerate to date, BUT I’m of the opinion the warnings are not
being heeded. I am now issuing a warning to ALL COACHES and runners, WE HAVE RULES,
and I’m tired of hearing the lame excuse “I didn’t know”, so from now on, no more
warnings. All rule breeches will be penalised with a fine, disqualification, or both.
Regards
Dennis Letton
Chief Steward
Say one thing and not follow up with it , the closest thing you can get to a toothless tiger.
Its all one big party with picnic races and not much discipline.

Pretty well much sums it all up what we already know.
He has said all breeches WILL be penalised with a fine, disqualification or both, not MAY.
Im guessing , not trying, wearing watches, celebrating before the line, the list goes on ...........arent breeches.

[quote="Z Score"]CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
Brighton #2 Carnival, Brighton Oval, 26th January 2022
Throughout this season I have issued many such warnings, and consider that I have been
very patient, lenient, and considerate to date, BUT I’m of the opinion the warnings are not
being heeded. I am now issuing a warning to ALL COACHES and runners, WE HAVE RULES,
and I’m tired of hearing the lame excuse “I didn’t know”, so from now on, no more
warnings. All rule breeches will be penalised with a fine, disqualification, or both.
Regards
Dennis Letton
Chief Steward
Dennis you have told us no more warnings , back on the 26th Jan.Read what you wrote NO MORE WARNINGS
CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
Loxton Gift Carnival, Loxton Oval, 26th February 2022
5. In the 300m Men’s heat, Danny Hildyard was given a warning for looking around.
6. In the first heat of the 1,000m Men’s event, Sam Kean was late reporting to the
start, and narrowly missed being fined because I was busy chatting Michael
Nitschke for wearing a watch, and warning Bailey Giles for looking around.

CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
Loxton Gift Carnival, Loxton Oval, 26th February 2022

7. Terence Carter withdrew from the 1,000m Men’s final because of illness and was
awarded a 14 day suspension.
Show me Dennis in the rules where it can be 14 days, has to be 28 day and possibly able to run after 7 days
13.14 Injury/illness – Automatic Disqualification
Any athlete who sustains an injury or illness or does not complete the whole of the distance of
the race during an event which prevents him from running to the best of his/her ability or is
unable to take his/her place in a semi-final or final for similar reasons, shall incur an automatic
suspension of 28 days. The use of a medical practitioner may be used at the discretion of the
Chief Steward to substantiate the claim of injury or illness. In determining the 28 days, the day
on which the injury occurred is counted as day one. Return to competition may be permitted
by the Chief Steward after 7 days if due to illness or 14 days if due to injury. In both cases the
production of a suitable medical practitioner's or similar certificate is required and or a
satisfactory trial by the athlete in the presence of the Chief Steward or his/her nominee.

And yes we nearly got it right
CHIEF STEWARD’S REPORT
Loxton Gift Carnival, Loxton Oval, 26th February 2022.
1. We were again blessed with excellent weather. A warm to hot day with light
fluctuating winds.
2. The support from organisers, Nippy’s, all other sponsors, and the Riverland
communities was excellent, and the facilities well prepared.
3. The track surfaces were well prepared and rated ‘Standard Grass’.
4. The circle track was initially measured to be 408m. Some unexpectedly fast times
prompted a remeasurement of the track. After several remeasurements, it was
determined that the track was only 405m. It was determined that the 300m track
was only 297.5m, and the 1000m track was only 992m. All times for the 300m and
1000m events have been adjusted accordingly for handicapping and stewarding, but
these adjustments do not show online

And for you Victorians who dont know how we run things over here
Heres the low down on jesse Cordoma in the stewards report.
After the steward let him run the 300m before the 120m final

9. In the 120m Men’s Gift Final, Jesse Cordoma was penalised for ‘unacceptable
performance’ and has forfeited all prize money. The forfeited prize money will be
distributed as follows:
a. $100 to each of the finalists 3 to 6, and
b. $50 each to the semi-finalists who did not make the final.
Jesse has appealed this penalty to the Management Committee, so the distribution
of prizemoney is subject to the outcome of that appeal

I suggest Jesse and others do not race in the saal anymore. Their actions are disgusting, and they should be ashamed of themselves. Focus on running in Victoria boys, where a legitimate League is run.

Interesting that 2.5m in a 300m results in 7/9 athletes running under 33s... based off my calculations with RPM results would be:

32.29
32.34
32.86
32.99
32.99
33.06
33.68
32.79
34.51

For some reason they have Brittain's time placing him 8th as well... But all except for one athlete STILL run under 34... For comparison at St Albans the winner ran 34.40, 2nd and 3rd ran under 35 6th and 7th ran in the 36's.

2.5m short on the 300m track could not be the cause of so many quick times.

donatello wrote:Interesting that 2.5m in a 300m results in 7/9 athletes running under 33s... based off my calculations with RPM results would be:

32.29
32.34
32.86
32.99
32.99
33.06
33.68
32.79
34.51

For some reason they have Brittain's time placing him 8th as well... But all except for one athlete STILL run under 34... For comparison at St Albans the winner ran 34.40, 2nd and 3rd ran under 35 6th and 7th ran in the 36's.

2.5m short on the 300m track could not be the cause of so many quick times.

Hey Donatello, you are to smart for the saal
They have been running at the same track for over 20 years , surely they can get it right,

Runners name: Greg Whitecross
Coaches name: Self trained
Race: 400m O35
Assigned mark: 128m
Details: I have supported the SAAL over a 20 year period. I turn 69 in May and only ever give 100%
effort in every single race that I compete in. 414 races to date. I struggle like all Masters runners to
compete on a regular basis due to ongoing injuries and setbacks. I raced the 400m Masters at Mt
Gambier, running a long last in my heat in November off 131m running 56.79s. I raced at Bay
Sheffield in 2021 and was a long last in both my events. I slowly increased my fitness after Bay and
have raced in the VAL over 300m where I have finished last in most races I have competed in
including last Sunday at Castlemaine. I made the effort to fly to Camden and home the same day to
compete at great expense in the over 35's 400m and ran a close 2nd to Mark Barnett in the final. I
did not break the ceiling time of 51 secs running 51.3 secs in my final. I had always planned to run at
Victor Harbour next Saturday having pre-paid motels and arranging to take a day off work on Friday
to drive 7 hours to Victor Harbour and back for a race worth $200 in total prizemoney. I am in total
disbelief that my handicap has been pulled back 12m for coming 2nd at Camden. I have not won a
race in over 8 years and as at Camden am the only athlete from Victoria to make the effort to come
to Sth Aust to race at Victor Harbour. I note that the winner from Camden who has also won since
was pulled just 6 metres and the 3rd placegetter at Camden has been lifted 3 metres. Am I missing
something here or has a mistake just been made with my handicap? I feel I have been treated way
to harshly for my Camden run and request that you please kindly review my handicap for Victor
Harbour.
Handicapper: Chris Dimitrak
Handicapper’s reply: As you pointed out in your review request, you clearly ran last in your races at
Mt Gambier and at the Bay Sheffield. I was prepared to give you a 9m discretionary lift for Camden,
so you were not beaten by so far. However, your improvement at Camden to almost win the race
was so significant that I am not prepared to give you a discretionary lift for this race. Therefore, you
have been allocated the system's calculated handicap. All the best for your race.
For all you Victorians Greg improved 6 seconds in 10 weeks and depending on your training load easily achieved, the vice president received a 20m lift when the new system began then improved 3seconds in 3 weeks yet now Floater meets the vice president worse off for getting beaten by him at Camden.Floater is still making the trip over from what my scribes tell me .But those sashes that the vice president is winning would mean Jack Shit to me.

Z Score wrote:And for you Victorians who dont know how we run things over here
Heres the low down on jesse Cordoma in the stewards report.
After the steward let him run the 300m before the 120m final

9. In the 120m Men’s Gift Final, Jesse Cordoma was penalised for ‘unacceptable
performance’ and has forfeited all prize money. The forfeited prize money will be
distributed as follows:
a. $100 to each of the finalists 3 to 6, and
b. $50 each to the semi-finalists who did not make the final.
Jesse has appealed this penalty to the Management Committee, so the distribution
of prizemoney is subject to the outcome of that appeal

The point is if Jesse didnt try in the 120m and finished last , and blamed the run in the 300m as to much would we have taken away Mumbles money.
Please tell me if you have done a calf or hammy or feel tightness , doesnt your shoulders go back and you stand upright .You see it with AFL footballers all the time but in Jesses case its con sidered pulling up , absolutely bullshit.

"However, your improvement at Camden to almost win the race"
Isnt this what a handicapper or handicapping is supposed to do, make an athlete competitive as to allow any athlete of any ability to have an equal opportunity to win a race?
Oh no he ALMOST won a race, we cant have that!